Not another year of this...

[Elykson343]

Yes I made this account just to post this here. So far the game is entertaining but there is one little problem. A little problem that has plagued MW to the point that I can't play it any more. I'm not talking abut the camping cause that's COD and you can't change that. What i'm talking about is the MP5 being broken day one... again. How can a naked MP5 out range, and damage an AK cross map on Satellite. Yet also melt in 4 shots to the chest at close range. With the game's already bonkers movement speed, inhuman sliding distance and NBA pro ball jump height. The MP5 has once again been pub stomping lobbies, and winning gunfights, against weapons it has no business even being in the same court as. The game has been out for 26 hours and several people already have it gold or are damn near gold and still being sub level 40. This is like BO2 day one Vector laser sight kinda bullshit. All of the other weapons seem sort of balanced. But the MP5 is outright broken. Even in zombies the starter MP5 will hold you for 15 rounds no problem, while the wall weapons become almost useless at round 10. If the MP5 gets what it deserves and has its damage decreased slightly, and recoil increased to be better matched with rest of the weapons. Maybe just maybe we can save the potential of this game. Can't do anything abut the camping and SBMM, but for the love of god Treyarch fix the damn MP5.

 

[Nimrod]

Yes I made this account just to post this here. So far the game is entertaining but there is one little problem. A little problem that has plagued MW to the point that I can't play it any more. I'm not talking abut the camping cause that's COD and you can't change that. What i'm talking about is the MP5 being broken day one... again. How can a naked MP5 out range, and damage an AK cross map on Satellite. Yet also melt in 4 shots to the chest at close range. With the game's already bonkers movement speed, inhuman sliding distance and NBA pro ball jump height. The MP5 has once again been pub stomping lobbies, and winning gunfights, against weapons it has no business even being in the same court as. The game has been out for 26 hours and several people already have it gold or are damn near gold and still being sub level 40. This is like BO2 day one Vector laser sight kinda bullshit. All of the other weapons seem sort of balanced. But the MP5 is outright broken. Even in zombies the starter MP5 will hold you for 15 rounds no problem, while the wall weapons become almost useless at round 10. If the MP5 gets what it deserves and has its damage decreased slightly, and recoil increased to be better matched with rest of the weapons. Maybe just maybe we can save the potential of this game. Can't do anything abut the camping and SBMM, but for the love of god Treyarch fix the damn MP5.

Hi.

I have not once used the MP5 in multiplayer as I am more of an AK-47 user really, but I can tell you that I never felt the MP5 being as super powerful as you describe, at least not to the point that I can't play the game anymore. I am usually one of the top 1-2-3 players using my AK-47 which I do/did in pretty much all CoD games. Never felt the MP5 being a biggie really.

 

[Elykson343]

Hi.

I have not once used the MP5 in multiplayer as I am more of an AK-47 user really, but I can tell you that I never felt the MP5 being as super powerful as you describe, at least not to the point that I can't play the game anymore. I am usually one of the top 1-2-3 players using my AK-47 which I do/did in pretty much all CoD games. Never felt the MP5 being a biggie really.

It seems the MP5 spam has died down a bit since launch, but my point still stands. I'm an M16 and AK user too. And I routinely get my ass handed too me by speed MP5 builds every single match. In some of the encounters I'm already pre aiming a door, aiming high center mass so that the recoil kicks into a headshot for easy 3 shots. And then the guy whips around the corner and drops me before the second round has left the barrel. Earlier on the Plane map. A guy was out sniping, snipers, M16, and assault rifles. Cross map with an MP5 with a 4X and recoil reduction attachments. All of the other weapons have specific roles that they settle into. Tactical rifles are effective at medium and long range. But struggle at close range due to their relatively low fire rate. Not a matter of not enough damage, but rather not enough damage fast enough. AR's are generally close to medium range and can deal good damage at both ranges, they tend to have slower fire rates but are still entirely capable of killing quickly even at point blank. The SMG's are generally supposed to be close range with high damage outputs in a short amount of time. High fire rate, low damage. There are exceptions like the Milenda ( I think that's what its called) that has a slow fire rate but high damage. But the MP5 for whatever reason seems to be in a class of its own. It deals decent damage at medium and long range and has incredibly high DPS at close range. Making it nearly broken. Yes at medium and long range an AK, SIG, or M16 can beat it in damage output, but with the MP5's SMG's high aim speed, low recoil and movement speed. More often than it has any reason to it can win at mid to long range. Thats the problem. The melinda's damage drop of is massive going from a 3-5 shot at close to an abysmal 12-17 and mid range with it sow fire rate. Forget it at that time to kill a you're better off stunning and then going for a gun butt bum rush. The MP5 can kill in a similar 12-15 rounds, but with its medium rate of fire and low recoil it puts it in the same TTK (time to kill) bracket as most of the AR's. All the benefits of an SMG without the draw backs of AR and Tactical rifles. Makes it broken when compared to all of the other weapons that for the most part fill their specific roles.

 

[Nimrod]

Yes I made this account just to post this here. So far the game is entertaining but there is one little problem. A little problem that has plagued MW to the point that I can't play it any more. I'm not talking abut the camping cause that's COD and you can't change that. What i'm talking about is the MP5 being broken day one... again. How can a naked MP5 out range, and damage an AK cross map on Satellite. Yet also melt in 4 shots to the chest at close range. With the game's already bonkers movement speed, inhuman sliding distance and NBA pro ball jump height. The MP5 has once again been pub stomping lobbies, and winning gunfights, against weapons it has no business even being in the same court as. The game has been out for 26 hours and several people already have it gold or are damn near gold and still being sub level 40. This is like BO2 day one Vector laser sight kinda bullshit. All of the other weapons seem sort of balanced. But the MP5 is outright broken. Even in zombies the starter MP5 will hold you for 15 rounds no problem, while the wall weapons become almost useless at round 10. If the MP5 gets what it deserves and has its damage decreased slightly, and recoil increased to be better matched with rest of the weapons. Maybe just maybe we can save the potential of this game. Can't do anything abut the camping and SBMM, but for the love of god Treyarch fix the damn MP5.

I understand now a little better what you are saying.

I personally would approach it from an other direction, this direction being that Assault Rifles cause more damage/quicker at short range. I don't see how it takes an AK-47 more time to take down an enemy than a MP-5. I just find it highly annoying that Assault Rifles seem largely inferior to SMGs in CQB while as you say not being much more accurate at larger distances.

Everyone who has been to a shooting range and had his way around with various weapons knows that a SMG is more accurate than a pistol and more fun to shoot than one but by far not more accurate than an AK at anything beyond 25 meters.

Just my opinion.

But it's true, if it is as you say then they should indeed work on the SMGs overall again not just the MP5 in my opinion, don't forget, they are going to add more weapons in future I assume, just a matter of time until you get some other laser beam.